Are these rats trash?

I just visited an expo yesterday and picked up a couple frozen feeders. On the drive home they were in a cooler bag with ice, but we broke down and the smaller ones didn't stay solid, but stayed cold.

When I got home they went to the freezer, as I was hoping they were still save-able. Went to double check tonight and my freezer is stuck at refrigeration temps, and the rats were melted. However they stayed refrigerated the entire time. They are now in a working freezer.

Should I trash them? My snakes are going to be a lot hungrier than usual by the time I can aquire more. I just got them, they were always cold and it has been a day max. What do you think?

You can try them- if the snakes reject them, take their word for it. They're probably not spoiled if they've remained at least cold (like 40*), but you'll have a loss of quality if re-frozen & then re-thawed to feed. No harm trying but just don't be surprised if they fall apart, etc., after re-freezing. Sorry for your rotten luck- vehicle break-downs are miserable even without losing food & supplies.

I will freeze a thawed feeder only once. After that it is trashed. By trashed I mean given to one of my garage disposal snakes.

Sorry for your bad luck, don't ride in a plane this week!

Rats should be fine if used in a few months.

Just to add to this post, since it's along the same lines...

I have a dedicated freezer for my feeders. Any reputable alarms that I can place in a freezer that would alert me on my phone of either the current temps or when it goes above a certain temp? And, of course, can sustain the cold temps of a freezer.

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Originally Posted by Charles8088

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I have a dedicated freezer for my feeders. Any reputable alarms that I can place in a freezer that would alert me on my phone of either the current temps or when it goes above a certain temp? And, of course, can sustain the cold temps of a freezer.

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There's probably an expensive alert product for this somewhere, but the cheap way to be sure your freezer hasn't thawed is to keep a small jar of water in the freezer; once the water in it is frozen, put a penny on top of the ice, & leave it in the freezer. If your freezer is off long enough for things to thaw, the penny will sink into the water in the jar so you'll know at a glance if it's no longer on top.

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Originally Posted by Charles8088

Just to add to this post, since it's along the same lines...

I have a dedicated freezer for my feeders. Any reputable alarms that I can place in a freezer that would alert me on my phone of either the current temps or when it goes above a certain temp? And, of course, can sustain the cold temps of a freezer.

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These would allow that. I'm sure there are others out there. I just did a quick search to find these. You just want one with a probe so the actual device is not inside the freezer.

MOCREO ST4 WiFi Temperature Sensor with Waterproof External Probe, for Freezer with App Alert, Smart Thermometer, Hub Required, Remote Temperature Monitor Gauge, for Refrigerator, Fish Tank, Soil https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09G9MG19D...MCSGDWVJ3S3R9K

MOCREO Indoor Wireless Thermometer Hygrometer Hub, Access Your Sensor Data via Internet Anywhere, Anytime https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08V555LXZ...3MV50F3QMG21NA

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

There's probably an expensive alert product for this somewhere, but the cheap way to be sure your freezer hasn't thawed is to keep a small jar of water in the freezer; once the water in it is frozen, put a penny on top of the ice, & leave it in the freezer. If your freezer is off long enough for things to thaw, the penny will sink into the water in the jar so you'll know at a glance if it's no longer on top.

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That's a unique and good idea. Will have to do that as well.

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Originally Posted by KMG

These would allow that. I'm sure there are others out there. I just did a quick search to find these. You just want one with a probe so the actual device is not inside the freezer.

MOCREO ST4 WiFi Temperature Sensor with Waterproof External Probe, for Freezer with App Alert, Smart Thermometer, Hub Required, Remote Temperature Monitor Gauge, for Refrigerator, Fish Tank, Soil https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09G9MG19D...MCSGDWVJ3S3R9K

MOCREO Indoor Wireless Thermometer Hygrometer Hub, Access Your Sensor Data via Internet Anywhere, Anytime https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08V555LXZ...3MV50F3QMG21NA

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I'm sure there are other ones as well. This one looks promising.