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UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment

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  • 07-29-2009, 01:06 AM
    xanaxez
    UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    House Judiciary Committee Staff and bill Sponsors agrees with USARK position to limit the scope of HR2811 with a proposal for an amendment. All but two pythons will be completely exempted from the bill. The exception will be the IMPORT of the Burmese Python and the African Rock Python. Further, Committee staff has committed to work with USARK over the August legislative break to craft language to allow the commercial trade in captive bred Burmese Pythons and African Rock Pythons to continue. This is a huge victory for USARK and the Reptile Nation!

    For the last two days, while the Reptile nation was making their calls, USARK was involved in intense discussions with the Sponsors of HR2811 and House Judiciary Committee Staff, not to destroy the Reptile Industry with their bill. Yesterday morning we suggested to Congressman Kendrick Meek and Congressman Tom Rooney that the bill be amended to address ONLY the IMPORT of the Burmese Python and exempt all the other pythons from this legislation. The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) caught wind of what we were doing and began to apply pressure to leave the bill "as is", banning all pythons.

    Today we coordinated a conference call to discuss the possibility of amending HR2811 instead of banning all pythons. Present were Rep Meek's staff, Rep Rooney's staff, both minority & majority Committee staff, bill proponent HSUS and USARK. HSUS made a very emotionally charged argument to ban all pythons. Their argument was strong on rhetoric and weak on facts and science. HSUS suggested that any bill going forward must include the Burmese Python, African Rock Python and Reticulated Python. They stated that the Reticulated Python was an Invasive Species that could surpass the Burmese Python. Andrew Wyatt of USARK challenged that statement indicating that HSUS could not produce credible scientific evidence to support their position, and that in more than 30 years of captivity in the US Reticulated Pythons have never been shown to be invasive; or even likely to be invasive. Wyatt also voiced concerns that this bill goes far beyond just stopping the import of these animals, but would also stop interstate transport. HSUS challenged that assertion, but Todd Willens of Vitello Consulting (USARK DC Consultant) confirmed Wyatt's concerns reading directly from the Lacy Act. Wyatt indicated that there was probably more than 100,000 Burmese Pythons already in captivity and HR2811 made no provision for what would happen to all these very valuable animals that would become worthless overnight. Frank Vitello of Vitello Consulting pointed out that there was already a science based process of evaluation to determine what animals should be placed on the Injurious Wildlife list of the Lacy Act. He pointed out that what HSUS was suggesting was to avoid a scientific evaluation in favor of legislating science.

    Following the meeting USARK was contacted and told of an agreement by committee staff to create an amendment that would limit the bill to the IMPORT of the Burmese and African Rock Pythons. Committee staff committed to work through the August break to work on how to create an exemption for the captive trade in the Burmese and African Rock Pythons. During the July 29th markup of the Full Committee we are told that Congressman Rooney will introduce the following amendment to HR2811:

    AMENDMENT TO H.R. 2811
    OFFERED BY MR. ROONEY OF FLORIDA
    Beginning in line 6, strike ‘‘; of the constrictor
    snake of the species Python genera’’ and insert ‘‘; of the
    Burmese Python of the species Python molurus
    bivittatus; of the African Rock Python of the species
    Python sebae’’.

    If we are successful in saving the Python industry there will still be a few "armchair quarterbacks" that will criticize our efforts. There is no guarantee that the amendment will be passed, but USARK has done everything possible, and will continue to pursue every avenue to protect the Reptile Industry. This bill is politically driven and is going to move forward with or without amendment. We are encouraged that the amendment was crafted by both majority and minority staff, thus it should send a positive signal to both Democrat and Republican Committee Members. We are hopeful the amendment passes. In either case we will continue to work with the bill sponsors and committee staff to further amend the bill before it reaches the House floor for a vote. We are appreciative that Congressmen Meek and Rooney, and the majority and minority committee staff favored our recommended changes and have committed to continue working with USARK as the bill moves through the legislative process.

    USARK is also pleased to report that it has secured a meeting with the office of Senator Bill Nelson during August recess to discuss modifications to the Senate counterpart to HR2811, S373.



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  • 07-29-2009, 02:11 AM
    bsd13
    Re: UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    Maybe we should be letting the HSUS know how we feel as well.

    http://www.hsus.org/contact_us/government_affairs.html
  • 07-29-2009, 02:20 AM
    pavlovk1025
    Re: UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    "USARK is also pleased to report that it has secured a meeting with the office of Senator Bill Nelson during August recess to discuss modifications to the Senate counterpart to HR2811, S373."

    w00t! Hell yeah!
  • 07-29-2009, 04:11 AM
    Derrick13
    Re: UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    Thats amazing, however I will not fill myself with blind hope.

    It really does seem like we can prevail over this bill.
  • 07-29-2009, 07:24 AM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    I know that burm people(and african rock too) will yell that they were sold out. I hope that this bill will INCREASE the value of CB burmese. BUrmese normal and albino babies should increase in value without the imported ones coming in cheap.

    Yes, trying to look for a silver lining.

    USARK has done pretty well considering they wanted to ban all exotics of every species, not even just reptiles. The excuse they were using was burmese in the everglades, and now we have a hunt program, and possibly a ban on importation of burmese and african rocks. With more effort on USARK's part, perhaps they can get it even more lessened.

    A big thank you to everyone making calls and faxes and emails! We need to keep up pressure to make OUR representatives listen to our voices.
  • 07-29-2009, 08:30 AM
    2kdime
    Re: UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    Do we still need to be calling this morning?

    I ask because of this new update. I know stuff is happening with all of this and USARK is keeping us updated as they go.

    I just wasn't sure with this new information if we still need to be calling this morning.
  • 07-29-2009, 09:31 AM
    Russ Lawson
    Re: UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    I still made my calls requesting that expert testimony be heard before they vote on it. Most of the people answering were nice. Only got hung up on by one when I told him where I was calling from.
  • 07-29-2009, 10:05 AM
    2kdime
    Re: UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    Now included in the emil from USARK is a link to a "Committee on the Judiciary" webpage.

    Are we able to watch the hearing like with HR669?

    Im having a hard time getting it to load, could be this new iMac though....
  • 07-29-2009, 10:08 AM
    neilgolli
    Re: UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Now included in the emil from USARK is a link to a "Committee on the Judiciary" webpage.

    Are we able to watch the hearing like with HR669?

    Im having a hard time getting it to load, could be this new iMac though....

    I cannot get it to load on my mac either anyone else in and watching?
  • 07-29-2009, 10:15 AM
    neilgolli
    Re: UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment
    If they are able to add anything to the Injurious Wildlife list regardless of any possible future exemptions for sale or interstate commerce, this is a huge loss / failure. They would be added without due scientific study, opening the doors wide open for easy access to anything in the future. Addition to the injurious list without due scientific research is akin to incarceration without due process or conviction.

    Step by step we are walking ourselves down our own path to destruction by allowing them to change the rules to the game.
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