How to avoid falling for scammers – Typical buyer scam

How to avoid falling for scammers – Typical buyer scam

Since hatchling season is upon us and many people will start to sell for the very first time it’s important to remember that not all buyers are real buyers.

Over the years the typical scam (usually from Cameroon) is for someone to contact you and pay for an animal via money order or cashier check, the scam here is purely about money the animal or shipping is the last of their concern.

So if you have doubts regarding a payment make sure that it is valid before depositing it to avoid charges on your account and do not fall for the old "I over paid you, please deposit the money order and send me back the difference"

Recently there has been a surge in such scams those who also follow the BOI are aware of this.

While I usually send people like this on their way this time I decided to document the scam from start to finish to show how the typical scam works (making HIM work for it and forcing HIM to spend some money ($6.95))

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You will notice the inconsistency the so called assistant sent the payment on 03/30 yet the payment was really only sent on 04/06 (They keep you engage and want to make sure that you are still biting before spending the money to send the MO or Cashier Check).

And of course when told the game is over they still try, accusing you of scamming them :rolleyes::rofl:

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Sadly there is very little that can be done, those type of people have multiple ID and email addresses, and the physical address from which the MO are supposedly mailed from turns out to be a vacant properties (that one just went off the market). The only possible lead could have been the third party company used to print and ship the label however that too is a fake.

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This specific scammer was registered on MorphMarket however John is proactive and caught him rapidly; unfortunately those types of people lurk everywhere including forums, craigslist etc

So if you are contacted by such individual on our forum make sure to report them immediately to the staff so we can ban them and keep our community safe.

Happy selling everyone and remain cautious



Scammer ID Joffred23 Email romnniazs@gmail.com Ruben Jake / James Kennedy Phone# 650-410-3537 – 708-467-9137

Additional info

There are a few other names, email addresses and phone numbers currently using the same scam.

Chris Wilmer

Scrapemetal - Fred Wilson / Johnson Joseph / John Jones – repozinlasterp@gmail.com – 727-308-1398 – 708-467-9137

Wilson4 – Wilson John– Fredwilson762@gmail.com barristerfredwilson@gmail.com

Crespo Joe – toolzosuccesful@gmail.com

Clara Wilson - claraw905@gmail.com

Richard Pacheco - Edith Marie - 708-492-8946

Desmond Lee - fulestsanec@gmail.com

David Philips adamsbraown67@gmail.com

FUAD TRADINGS LLC - Greg Johnson wert8hvhhlll@gmail.com 765-722-2819

Wilson Gran wg3138015@gmail.com

GE - Princewill Echebiri vzwertyyyyyuuuy@gmail.com


225-380-3623

319-820-1030

812-465-2363

812-573-2043

njdbm788s@gmail.com

uencilproper@gmail.com

Oh man, I love that little touch in the one email: "I pledged the rest of this money to an orphanage!" Yeah, sure bro.

Wait!! Deborah Stewart is breeding albino anacondas!!?? WTF, I want in on one of those!!!

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Wait!! Deborah Stewart is breeding albino anacondas!!?? WTF, I want in on one of those!!!

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Hognose mutation ;)

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Hognose mutation ;)

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Oh lol. I was woah there honey!! You need to send me a price list and pics when you get the next litter haha. :D

hahaha, way to make them work for it Deb.

the idea behind these scams is to make sure the money gets transfered back to the scammer in a way that cannot be backed up or insured by a bank. e.g. they give you 5k with a fraudulent check, you give back 3k via wire transfer or other non-bank transfer, scammer gets 3k but by the time the check is ACTUALLY processed you're stuck with a fraudulent check that bounced 5k.

how often has this happened to you? is it really that prevalent within the hobby? i just saw this kind of scam happen to a job seeker who thought they were hired and given money for "supplies".

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how often has this happened to you? is it really that prevalent within the hobby?

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To me about once a year. Lately there has been several people contacted including some that like me decided to make them work for it and spend some money.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=614545

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=613761

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Originally Posted by Deborah

To me about once a year. Lately there has been several people contacted including some that like me decided to make them work for it and spend some money.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=614545

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=613761

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thanks for the links!

Wow...seriously.

The language use is always what sets me off on these scams. I get emails from MorphMarket that start "I am a local, I have money, I am ready buy, give me your email and phone number. I am ready to deal."

...yeah, sure you are buddy.



Love that he tried the 'you think you can scam me'. Hahaha.

I just honestly don't trust anything that's cashiers checks or the like. I only ever see them used in scams. Pay me up front or no dice, kemosabe.