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  • 04-16-2010, 12:36 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    But the odds of something like that happening are so incredibly slim as to hardly be worth considering at all. You have a much higher risk of choking to death on a bite of steak...so maybe we should never eat when we're alone? :confused: And we should avoid stairs at all times because of the risk of tripping and falling down them. And never...ever...get into a car, those things are death-traps on wheels!

    Exactly :/

    Just because it COULD happen doesn't mean it is always going to. If everyone stopped doing things that were dangerous well, no one would be doing anything at all!
  • 04-16-2010, 12:51 PM
    TessadasExotics
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Small constrictors approximately 3 ft long and 1.5 inches thick can squeeze with pressures up to 4 PSI

    A 4 or 5 foot ball python is much larger than 1.5 inches.
    Read more: http://ngccommunity.nationalgeograph...#ixzz0lHWskHiw

    Also an 18 foot python applies 12 psi and a 5 foot 6psi.

    That's per square inch. My neck is about 17 inches If a ball python where to wrap around my neck with 2 coils and lets just say it only has 4psi of strength. At only 34 square inches (if the snake was only 1 inch around in diameter) that would be the same as 136 pounds of pressure. 136 Pounds of Pressure! Tell me just how easy that would be to remove?

    Ok well maybe BG or Boanerges could possibly get it off with little to no difficulty. lol j/k even they would have troubles i bet. Especially if one were to panic which I am sure most would.
  • 04-16-2010, 12:58 PM
    TessadasExotics
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    Exactly :/

    Just because it COULD happen doesn't mean it is always going to. If everyone stopped doing things that were dangerous well, no one would be doing anything at all!

    Never once did I ever say it would happen. I Doubt that it ever would, as a constrictor normally only constricts like that to kill. They usually only kill or try to kill what they think they can consume. I am sure that a ball python knows with out a doubt that it can not consume a human. I have and will put ball pythons on or around my neck. I am merely pointing out that a Ball Python has the ability to constrict and kill a grown man. For some one to doubt that is just silly.
  • 04-16-2010, 01:02 PM
    EvesFriend
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post

    But the odds of something like that happening are so incredibly slim as to hardly be worth considering at all. You have a much higher risk of choking to death on a bite of steak...


    I have a hard time believing that. Do you know of any actual studies to support this statement?
  • 04-16-2010, 01:03 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Let me rephrase what I said then.

    A ball python is surely capable of strangling an adult human, but only with a full force constrict to kill. A ball python is unlikely to constrict to kill an adult human unless threatened greatly.

    Just don't piss off your snake and put it around your neck. Problem solved!

    Or even better, just don't put your snake around your neck.
  • 04-16-2010, 01:06 PM
    EvesFriend
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    Exactly :/

    Just because it COULD happen doesn't mean it is always going to. If everyone stopped doing things that were dangerous well, no one would be doing anything at all!

    So you admit that putting a fully grown ball python around your neck is dangerous. This is in stark contrast to what you said earlier in this post. It's nice to see you are finally being honest with yourswelf. :)
  • 04-16-2010, 01:06 PM
    flynn
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    Small constrictors approximately 3 ft long and 1.5 inches thick can squeeze with pressures up to 4 PSI

    A 4 or 5 foot ball python is much larger than 1.5 inches.
    Read more: http://ngccommunity.nationalgeograph...#ixzz0lHWskHiw

    Also an 18 foot python applies 12 psi and a 5 foot 6psi.

    That's per square inch. My neck is about 17 inches If a ball python where to wrap around my neck with 2 coils and lets just say it only has 4psi of strength. At only 34 square inches (if the snake was only 1 inch around in diameter) that would be the same as 136 pounds of pressure. 136 Pounds of Pressure! Tell me just how easy that would be to remove?

    Interesting information, thanks for that. I would doubt the number is accumulative as is speculated, but I do realize the point your making.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    Small constrictors approximately 3 ft long and 1.5 inches thick can squeeze with pressures up to 4 PSI

    By this logic a corn/king snake is also capable of killing, right?
  • 04-16-2010, 01:06 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EvesFriend View Post
    I have a hard time believing that. Do you know of any actual studies to support this statement?

    6. Suffocation
    Deaths per year: 3,300

    Call this one the "Heimlich" section, as these deaths mostly resulted from blockages of the respiratory system by food or other objects.
    http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/topte...dentsfull.html

    Average Human Deaths per Year from captive constrictor snakes.
    0.44
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...dBR8e6jikjjYVw
  • 04-16-2010, 01:08 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EvesFriend View Post
    So you admit that putting a fully grown ball python around your neck is dangerous. This is in stark contrast to what you said earlier in this post. It's nice to see you are finally being honest with yourswelf. :)

    In my first post I flat out said that you just SHOULDN'T do it. I don't do it but that doesn't mean I think it is dangerous. I still don't think it is dangerous.

    What are you talking about????
  • 04-16-2010, 01:10 PM
    WesleyTF
    Re: Is it safe to allow a ball python to wrap around your neck? Rest on your shoulder
    Perhaps 130+PSI over the entire snake, but you're not trying to remove the snake from all sides at one time. Furthermore, the amount of pressure that they're able to apply diminishes significantly as you move away from the muscled mid-section. You grab onto a piece of it--tail, head, whatever you can get--and yank it off. Maybe it's possible if someone panics they can't figure out what to do in time, but I highly doubt that someone in full mental capacity could be subdued by a BP.
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