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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
Originally Posted by Dvas_Romeo
Regarding this proposed ban, it states importation into USA and transportation interstate. Wouldn't this allow for breeders to breed their current animals and sell within their own state? In other words, wouldn't owners technically still be allowed to legally purchase and/or keep these animals - provided that they were not imported into the US and/or transported between states?
Yes but there would be so little buyers in one state the breeders wouldn't be making any money.
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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
If you haven't done so already, please read this article:
PIJAC Interviews USFWS
Seeks to clarify notice of inquiry on constrictor snakes.
Maybe this will clear up some confusion as to what this is all about.
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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
Originally Posted by Kerig3
Very imformative link. From what that article says they are trying to educate themselves what species may be a long term enviromental threat. In my opinion south Florida and Hawaii(where snakes are illegal any way) are the only places in the US tropical enough where most of the boa and python species could
survive in the wild and have a chance of establishing themselves long term. Florida has already adjusted laws to try to curb the problem in the everglades and that is a very localized enviromental issue.
The fact that they are also interested in economic info sounds like uncle Sam feels he might not be getting his share of an industry no one was paying to much attention to.
At least thats what I got out of the article.
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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
i had ball pythons ever since i was 10 years old..this is bull
Last edited by BP.net Staff; 02-13-2008 at 06:45 PM.
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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
i've felt the same way... i think they're opening this to public comment strictly so they can gain more info on the demographics and types of people most directly affected by the ban. clearly they dont care what we think... they care about taking swift and decisive action and about abusing their democratically gained powers to the fullest extent possible.
Colin Vestrand
long time keeper and breeder of carpet pythons and other snakes...
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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
let me also say that i visited the everglades last year and florida has much much much bigger problems that a few burms... how about pollutants, drout, and the draining of their natural wetlands for irrigation and human consumption??? there is no everglades. i went in the spring and it was a big field basically. not a whole lot of fresh water there.
Colin Vestrand
long time keeper and breeder of carpet pythons and other snakes...
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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
Another thing. Realistically, BP owners need NOT worry about the interstate trade of BP's... simply because of their role in the pet industry. Think about how many BP's are sold by Petco and Petsmart each year... and those all come from out of state for most stores. Now think about how many Petcos and Petsmarts there are in America. That's a lot of snakes and a lot of business. (And, mind you, Petco sells baby normals for $80.)
It's the non-mainstream snakes that matter. They probably expect lots of owners to say, "Oh , well don't ban ALL of them, just ban the big ones like burms and condas." Then they can just go ahead and do it, saying they had public approval...
The whole thing is just scary. In my state, you need to have a permit for owning large snakes like retics and condas (not burms as far as I know, but could be wrong). If there's a burm problem in FL, that PARTICULAR state should consider a permit system, instead of a ban of ALL trade of these animals.
All of this just rubs me the wrong way!!
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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
It looks like they will limit possession to a very few. Even those of us who are reptile/herp rescuers are effected. My wife and I try to educate everyone who is interested in becoming an owner, but there are always those who don't listen and think they know it all and are the ones who end up releasing exotics into our domestic habitation. We will keep doing our part.
I went to the link to write but found it closed, so I will write to US Fish Wildlife through snail mail. Hopefully all of us will educate them.
Peace and Blessings to All.
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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
Whaaaaaat?! That is soooooooooo not cool.
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Re: Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!
This can not happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ball pythons are my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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