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    New Carpet Morphs

    I have been hearing a lot lately that Carpets are going to be the next big morph thing, like BPs. What is out there? What is in the works?

    Maybe a good reptile radio question?

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    Re: New Carpet Morphs

    Well, Pat, where do I begin? LOL!

    As for the Irian Jayas, currently the only proven mutation is the granite. Will Leary and a few others are working on one called the spider IJ. AC is working on one he calls the motley. It is similar to the spider trait but different.

    As for jungles, the only proven morph is the zebra jungle. It is still currently in Europe and has a hefty price tag.

    As for the coastals, there are a few. In the US, we have the tri-stripe and tiger. We also have a few different lines of stripes. More time is needed to determine if they are compatible to the other two or just different alleles of the same gene. In Europe, there is the axanthic (simple recessive) and the caramel (co-dom). In Oz, there is a hypomelanistic line of coastals. The jaguar is also considered a coastal morph but there is some speculation as to the true origin of the jaguar.

    Bredli have a stripe line and a hypo morph.

    Darwin carpets have an albino morph. This was strictly a Oz offspring but there is animals in Europe, supposedly smuggled.

    This is the complete list as I know it.

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    Re: New Carpet Morphs

    Wow, Mike, thank you so much, answered more than one of myquestions without blinkin your eye!

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    Re: New Carpet Morphs

    Well, you know me, carpets are my passion!

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    Re: New Carpet Morphs

    Thanx Mike!!!!

    Im trying to rally people to go to San Diego Reptile show! pack your crap now!

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    Re: New Carpet Morphs

    Here are a few morphs http://www.spectacularcarpetpythons....tion_page.html my favorite the Super Tiger Jaguar
    Deborah Stewart


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    Re: New Carpet Morphs

    www.moreliapythons.com Come join the family

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    Re: New Carpet Morphs

    Pat, I realized that I did not totally answer your question.

    Will carpets be the next big thing?? That is a tough one to answer. Everyone has tried to find the next big thing. People believed the blood pythons were it. I believe it is a combination of both.
    As more and more laws get passed and more regulations against large constrictors become more common, people will look toward a smaller species to keep. Carpets and bloods fill the big, but not too big, snakes.
    People will have their favorites but I do believe that both of these will fill a niche in that void. Most people pass carpets by for a more flashier snake(s), but those that do get one, wind up getting more. Just like ball morphitis!! LOL!

    Hope this answered all your original questions.

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    Re: New Carpet Morphs

    in addition to everything mpenn said, there are a growing number of combo morphs that have their own unique look... super tiger-jags, tiger-jags, granite jags, IJ jags, jungle jags, tiger x tri stripe, leucistic (almost , etc. that combined with the fact that 'normal' carpets are a million times for variable than a 'normal' ball could mean that in the next few years we could see some great stuff. i know i'm excited... the only 'downside' i see is that carpets have so many eggs there could be a lot of 'unwanted' normal offspring if people chose to breed irresponsibly.
    Colin Vestrand

    long time keeper and breeder of carpet pythons and other snakes...

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    Re: New Carpet Morphs

    Quote Originally Posted by kzooherpetoculturist View Post
    in addition to everything mpenn said, there are a growing number of combo morphs that have their own unique look... super tiger-jags, tiger-jags, granite jags, IJ jags, jungle jags, tiger x tri stripe, leucistic (almost , etc. that combined with the fact that 'normal' carpets are a million times for variable than a 'normal' ball could mean that in the next few years we could see some great stuff. i know i'm excited... the only 'downside' i see is that carpets have so many eggs there could be a lot of 'unwanted' normal offspring if people chose to breed irresponsibly.
    I disagree with your last statement. I do not believe it is the "unwanted" normal offspring but rather the "unwanted" hybrid siblings from the jaguar breeding. Very, and I mean very few people would breed an IJ to a jungle or coastal to an IJ just to do it. But when the jag is thrown in, people think it is acceptable. What is to become of the offspring from such breedings??

    As far as the leucy, I seriously doubt a living healthy one will ever be produced. Compare the jag to the spider ball. They are both a co-dom morph with neuro problems. Some worse than others. I believe they are both carriers of a lethal gene and hence no supers. While we have actually witnessed the super form of the jag, the leucy, it has not survived beyond a few hours.

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