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Re: Introducing a New Method for Enforcing TOS/Site Rules
Originally Posted by wilomn
So then, you can't?
Interesting.
If you read my post, you would see that the definition was "hidden" inside......
Some call it an all work all benefit.. Some call it big brother asigning you your life...
Wow
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Re: Introducing a New Method for Enforcing TOS/Site Rules
Originally Posted by bcampos
If you read my post, you would see that the definition was "hidden" inside......
Some call it an all work all benefit.. Some call it big brother asigning you your life...
Wow
Well, I'm not real good at finging things people hide. I'm pretty much a plain and simple guy.
Could you give me the plain and simple version of your definition of what communism is?
I may not be very smart, but what if I am?
Stinky says, "Women should be obscene but not heard." Stinky is one smart man.
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Re: Introducing a New Method for Enforcing TOS/Site Rules
Originally Posted by wilomn
Well, I'm not real good at finging things people hide. I'm pretty much a plain and simple guy.
Could you give me the plain and simple version of your definition of what communism is?
Ok plain and simple guy... If you would like to explain exactly what the text book answer is.
Comunism is "Revolutionary Proletarian Socialism" or "Marxism." It is a political and economical philosophy claiming to be free of ideology. Yet it is a specific ideal in and of itself. It is a structure that promotes a "classless" society of people, yet in doing so creates a distinct upper and lower class. The upper class is usually the organization or political structure that enforces the ideals. Its design is that a mass of working class can push forward without materialism, and create a better world. In reality, it is a "big-brother" attitude of the enforcers keeping the "classless" working class in check and under control.
I think we've gotten away from the topic of the big-brother system, but I'm sure you understand now.
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Re: Introducing a New Method for Enforcing TOS/Site Rules
Originally Posted by bcampos
Ok plain and simple guy... If you would like to explain exactly what the text book answer is.
Comunism is "Revolutionary Proletarian Socialism" or "Marxism." It is a political and economical philosophy claiming to be free of ideology. Yet it is a specific ideal in and of itself. It is a structure that promotes a "classless" society of people, yet in doing so creates a distinct upper and lower class. The upper class is usually the organization or political structure that enforces the ideals. Its design is that a mass of working class can push forward without materialism, and create a better world. In reality, it is a "big-brother" attitude of the enforcers keeping the "classless" working class in check and under control.
I think we've gotten away from the topic of the big-brother system, but I'm sure you understand now.
I believe, as this post shows, that it was you who brought text books into a discussions about opinions and definitions.
Thank you for your disagreement.
Perhaps I missed you saying so, but I don't recall you mentioning anything about making a change in the new system. I did see complaining about it and broad generalizations relating it to communism which, other than a text book definition of, you don't seem overly familiar with.
Are you implying, since you haven't said so directly, that the mods and admins have a want, a need, a desire to elevate themselves above the general membership and that they do this by oppressing that membership? Are you saying that the mods and admins oppress the general membership by making rules that only the general members have to follow, that the mods and admins are immune from?
Or are you saying that there are some members here who need to inflate their worth, their self value, the value they have in the eyes of others, by oppressing those general members who are not mods and admins?
You can see that I am confused.
I am confused because it seem to me that those who enforce the rules, rules which are by and large in accordance with what the general population wants, are working far harder than the very general membership that you claim is oppressed.
How can this be?
I may not be very smart, but what if I am?
Stinky says, "Women should be obscene but not heard." Stinky is one smart man.
www.humanewatch.org
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Re: Introducing a New Method for Enforcing TOS/Site Rules
Originally Posted by wilomn
I believe, as this post shows, that it was you who brought text books into a discussions about opinions and definitions.
Thank you for your disagreement.
Perhaps I missed you saying so, but I don't recall you mentioning anything about making a change in the new system. I did see complaining about it and broad generalizations relating it to communism which, other than a text book definition of, you don't seem overly familiar with.
Are you implying, since you haven't said so directly, that the mods and admins have a want, a need, a desire to elevate themselves above the general membership and that they do this by oppressing that membership? Are you saying that the mods and admins oppress the general membership by making rules that only the general members have to follow, that the mods and admins are immune from?
Or are you saying that there are some members here who need to inflate their worth, their self value, the value they have in the eyes of others, by oppressing those general members who are not mods and admins?
You can see that I am confused.
I am confused because it seem to me that those who enforce the rules, rules which are by and large in accordance with what the general population wants, are working far harder than the very general membership that you claim is oppressed.
How can this be?
Why can't you understand. I already said we are not going to agree on this. Why are you still hitting me with questions. WE DO NOT AGREE. It makes no sense for us to continue to push our side after so many posts.
You have my opinions, they are there in my posts. That is all.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Introducing a New Method for Enforcing TOS/Site Rules
Originally Posted by bcampos
Why can't you understand. I already said we are not going to agree on this. Why are you still hitting me with questions. WE DO NOT AGREE. It makes no sense for us to continue to push our side after so many posts.
You have my opinions, they are there in my posts. That is all.
I am simply trying to figure out what it is that you are saying. You don't exactly make clear what you are trying to tell me we disagree about.
I now know the textbook definition of communism but it doesn't fit this site, which you have stated is becoming communistic.
How does that work?
I may not be very smart, but what if I am?
Stinky says, "Women should be obscene but not heard." Stinky is one smart man.
www.humanewatch.org
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Re: Introducing a New Method for Enforcing TOS/Site Rules
Originally Posted by Ginevive
I am just wondering about "sexual innuendo" in the Breeding section. People regularly use terms like "sexy" to express their joy at snakes in general, I have noticed. Is this considered an infraction, I wonder? Or "my balls" (referring to BPs..) I hope that I don't get an infraction for this post; it is in the interest of learning the ropes.
We think a lot alike! But I think we are safe in these cases; it seems.
Originally Posted by Loft Lizard
I may have lied. I think it only shows because it was edited?
Bruce
Go to the post, click on the red box showing that it was hit up for infraction and you will see the "why."
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/i...=view&p=696231
But there is no easy way to know why someone has points unless they give us the link like you did.
Originally Posted by MarkS
I don't disagree with enforcing the rules, in fact I like the way the rules have been spelled out a little more clearly. What I disagree with is the public punishment idea where everyone can see how many times you've been dinged, but not what it was for.
I agree about showing why members have points. If you show the points, why not be able to click on their points and get a list of the infractions (w/ or w/out links to the posts). But then everyone will want to see members' rep points, too. Where does it end? Maybe I don't agree. Hmmm... something to think about.
Originally Posted by daniel1983
Glad to see the new policy. I hope it makes this forum much easier to moderate for the mods/admins and causes some people to reconsider making inappropriate post before they hit the reply button.
Or, in the case of people who DON'T think twice about hitting "submit," I am glad they can be banned.
Bcampos and Wilomn, you are both looking like you're inciting each other. I am GLAD I am not an admin or mod - making the infraction calls is going to be a tough one.
The only question I am left with is about the fact that John (Jasballs) has infraction points showing "how close he is to being banned forever." Are there others in this category? I think I know of someone else who may deserve to be in that category but has no infraction points under his name. What if you leave and come back with a new name? Doesn't that count, too? (I am not insinuating, just curious.)
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