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Saving a Life! (Graphic images)
I don't really know where to start this post, so I'll run through it in chronilogocal order as best as I can.
My last clutch of eggs started hatching on Thursday. This was a 9 egg clutch from my Spider to a Normal female that we have had for about three years. This is the first clutch of eggs we got from her since we have had her. She was sold to me as a LTC (long term captive), but I believe she was an imported gravid. She has eaten for us well over the last few years, and is a beautiful, big girl. This clutch yielded 4 spiders and 6 normals. I know the snakes don't add up to the eggs, because this happened to be the clutch that produced our twins, which hatched fine (small but ok) and 4 total Spiders (2.2).
When I got home from work on Friday, I checked the box and found this female Spider out of her egg. So, I washed her up and prepared her for her box with her female clutch mates. When I went to sex her, I noticed that there was a funny looking spot near where her heart would be that looked as if the scales were not connected, and upon further inspection, it looked as if that area was slightly bulged out. I then began looking for a "belly button", and could not find one, and it appeared that she did not absorb a yolk. No yolk was present in the egg, so I'm not sure about that part.
Well, we didn't see anything that looked life threatening, so I put her in the damp box with the other females from the clutch. This morning I went to check the egg box to see if the last remaining Spider had crawled out of the egg. She had not, so I worried that there may be a problem. I cut the entire top off of the egg to have a closer look. I could not see anything wrong, s I put it back in the incubator.About 30 minutes later I checked to see if it came out, and sure enough there she was. I unplugged my incubator, as we are now done for the year, washed up the snake and brought her out to the room to put her in the hatchling box. This is when the fear finally hit me.
I opened the box to put her in, and decided to check on the other female Spider. When I finally got her untangled from the Ball Python clump, I noticed that the hernia, I'm guessing from being on the moist paper towel, had softened and her heart was now protruding completely from the funny spot I had noticed yesterday. I tried to push her heart back into the opening, but everytime it would beat, the heart would come back out of the opening. I immediately began to make phone calls to some buddies, to get some other opinions, as I knew if I didn't do anything, she would die anyway.
I finally got ahold of Adam, and told him the whole story. This is where I must send out the greatest Thanks I can muster to Adam for the insight and help that he gave me. Adam told me that he had only seen this once a few years back at Ralph's facility. Ralph hatched a Lucy female with what sounded to him like the same scenario. Adam then proceded to tell me what Ralph did, and that that girl is alive and well today. What Ralph did was to sew the hernia up using a needle and some unwaxed dental floss.
Well, now my journey begins, as I do not have any unwaxed dental floss at my house. I intended to go to the pharmacy and get what I needed to help this little girl out. In mid drive, I realized that the vets office was still open, and figured I would tell them the story and get a suture kit from them. They told me that it was against their policy to sell those kind of items, so I struck out there. I then went to the feed store hoping they would have suture kits, and no luck. The store and the pharmacy in our little town only had waxed dental floss, so now I'm enroute to town to go to Walgreens. I finally got to Walgreens and got what I needed and headed home. I stopped on the way home at Sean's shop, as it was on the way, and asked his advice. He said he had never done that, but it sounded like it would work. Off to the house to perform surgery.
I got the camera ready to take pics, set up a new box, just for her, that had a dry paper towel, and got the needle, dental floss and hemostats ready. I got Monica to come out and help hold the "patient" while I tried my damndest to help her live. NOTE: I had to drink a beer to steady my hands before I began. When I got her out to take a picture of the hernia, I noticed that it had gotten worse from the moisture softening the wound. When I first picked her up though, all of the organs were inside of her. I believe that when I picked her up, her heart rate increased from the stress, and her heart popped back out. I snapped a pic, and got to work stitching up the hole. I think I saw a dark spot on her heart while I was placing the sutures, and believe that I might have slightly bruised her heart, but I'm praying that she will be alright. I got five sutures in the hernia that was probably about 3/4 inch long, and it appears that if the scales grow together and the hole closes up that she will be fine.
Now, starts the long road of nursing her to health and getting her to eat. I have been trying to think of a fitting name for her if she survives, but I haven't come up with on yet. Here are the pics for anyone that is interested in seeing this little girl. Also, wouldn't you know, she happens to be probably the best looking Spider I have ever produced, so hopefully she pulls through.
Her little heart:
All stitched up:
Her beautiful self after "surgery" (she did great, what a trooper):
Hopefully somebody learned a little something from our situation, and I ask everyone to pray for this little girl.
Sincerely,
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Re: Saving a Life! (Graphic images)
Great stiching job, Dr.Tim! I hope she pulls through!! If she does, and eats, will this effect her breeding in anyway?
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Re: Saving a Life! (Graphic images)
Thanks for the compliment. I don't know if it will affect her breeding, I wouldn't think so, but I will have to watch her as she grows and determine that later. I'm not sure I would breed her anyway, she'll probably just make a great pet.
Originally Posted by stangs13
Great stiching job, Dr.Tim! I hope she pulls through!! If she does, and eats, will this effect her breeding in anyway?
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Re: Saving a Life! (Graphic images)
Originally Posted by muddoc
Thanks for the compliment. I don't know if it will affect her breeding, I wouldn't think so, but I will have to watch her as she grows and determine that later. I'm not sure I would breed her anyway, she'll probably just make a great pet.
She would, shes so pretty! good luck!
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Re: Saving a Life! (Graphic images)
Tim you deserve the ball python verson of the CMA. Most people whould have culled that little girl but for you to take the time to do all of that. She had better be a keeper.
My question is with there not being a visual umbilicus (sp) could her digestive tract be misdeveloped and her heart was protruding from the area the umbilicus ended up being?
Man let me know if you want some suture kits just to keep on hand. I have a place to get them I get my Chloehexadine (sp) there as well. They sell vet supplies to farmers.
When you've got 10,000 people trying to do the same thing, why would you want to be number 10,001? ~ Mark Cuban "for the discerning collector"
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Re: Saving a Life! (Graphic images)
:eek: You did an amazing job Tim (not sure I could ever do what you did), hope this little girl pulls through.
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Re: Saving a Life! (Graphic images)
Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
Tim you deserve the ball python verson of the CMA. Most people whould have culled that little girl but for you to take the time to do all of that. She had better be a keeper.
My question is with there not being a visual umbilicus (sp) could her digestive tract be misdeveloped and her heart was protruding from the area the umbilicus ended up being?
Man let me know if you want some suture kits just to keep on hand. I have a place to get them I get my Chloehexadine (sp) there as well. They sell vet supplies to farmers.
I think the hernia was too far up the body for her umbilicus to be attached there, so I'm not sure how her digestive system is developed, and probably won't know until she starts eating, which will be awhile, as I don't want to put stress on the hernia until it is healed up well. As for suture kits, I might get with you on that later, but I seem to have a pretty good one noe, as the dental floss worked very well.
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Re: Saving a Life! (Graphic images)
Oh, Tim! I'm thinking of you and this little girl. I hope she heals up for you just fine--and gets a fitting name. to you and Monica--that couldn't have been easy to go through. I couldn't imagine ever having to do that! But I guess it's something that anyone who thinks of breeding should consider.
Last edited by AzureN1ght; 09-22-2007 at 03:21 PM.
Reason: Thought of something else
--Kim
1.0.0 Lemon Pastel (Auryn)
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Re: Saving a Life! (Graphic images)
Originally Posted by GA_Ball_Pythons
:eek: You did an amazing job Tim (not sure I could ever do what you did), hope this little girl pulls through.
Thanks Deborah. I hope she makes it too, as I've already fallen in love with her.
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Originally Posted by AzureN1ght
Oh, Tim! I'm thinking of you and this little girl. I hope she heals up for you just fine--and gets a fitting name. to you and Monica--that couldn't have been easy to go through.
It's definitely not easy to go through, but if she lives, it was all worth it. Thanks for the hugs and prayer.
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